Can I swap to an S58? Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. Drives: '20 . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. Bringing the BMW community together. M4. N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY - YouTube 0:00 / 1:29:01 N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY HakenE30 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 757 Share Save 31K views 1 year. However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. We should have more pans ready by March". There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. Thank you for information. Edit: (also asking this mostly because I'm curious about 328i and 335i differences excluding the engine). JavaScript is disabled. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. Jump to Latest Follow . Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. F40Model Year: . It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. G30Model . recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. 75. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. I wouldnt. 2. I'm not a big fan of E90's. The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". Find a 335i with the parts you want. gmail ! New Member. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. It would be one hell of a sleeper. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. It's not even sleeved. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. Join Date: Jun 2017 . I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. I was thinking if I purchased a donor car off copart like a 440 with a twisted frame or something, drop the front and rear subframes with the motor and everything, swap over the fuel tank and lines. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. I had been thinking about swap since October, but made it in March. Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. Stock turbos, the B58 is better. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. Sell your 320i and swap the plates. i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Does anyone know if you can put a BMW B58 engine into a 2011-2013 BMW 335i coupe (N55 engine), Also curious if this would work for the 2007-2011 335i coupe. _____ G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. Now this is interesting. We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. Jul 30, 2022. It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. It would probably be much cheaper to buy an 328i for a swap than a 335i and pay more money for a faster engine that won't be used. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. 4. We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. On an e90, Everything is dearer. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). If youre dead set on an e90 find a late model with one already in it. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Buy it. The B58 has not bested the N54. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? Great to know about the Pure transmissions. Also we lost 10 days on delivering new cooling pipes instead broken, which were damaged during delivering of swap kit. My question are. JavaScript is disabled. I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i), 135i Turbo Engine (N54 / N55), Exhaust and Drivetrain Modifications, https://view.imirus.com/290/document/13379/page/28. Dorch products are well-known when it comes to N55 fueling solutions. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. G22Model Year: 2020 + 4. ago Funny that I should stumble on this thread . Different transmission and differential. 4. $1,601.00. Which body would work the best for swapping the B58 into. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. The B58 has not bested the N54. G22Model Year: 2020 + . according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. I suppose as long as you're starting with a bare bones skeleton e92, frame only, you might be able to Frankenstein one together? E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Just buy a 335? From $650 View. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. Mine was a 6-speed. [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. 1 Reply More posts you may like s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. Poor choice for a race car ??? M5. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. It has a much higher spec interior, suspension and brakes. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? I have personally witnessed a 318i transformed into a 325i on an e46 chassis and my gosh there are so many differences from brakes, suspension, diff, engine, tranny, electronics, cluster, steering update, seats, even rear parcel shelf where rear speakers sit is different material, wiring, interior bits and pieces. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. 5. . Anything is possible, just time and money. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. Second Lieutenant . Theyre infamous for this. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. Without a doubt. Posts. You must log in or register to reply here. I already got a tune but that did not really make a difference. com [Download RAW message or body] Hi Daniel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Daniel Kiper <dani Or a Supra if automatic is your thing. Refreshments available. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? Once the car was completed, we took it for a test and then took an original 325i for a test. A 335i is more than just the engine. The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. You are using an out of date browser. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. Handicap friendly. Its not worth it at all. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. Rep. 19. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. Both options are cheaper and work better than what you're asking. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. Find amazing local prices on Bmw n47 engine for sale Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. Cool idea, but it will be very very expensive. Still saving up for the car itself. Our page dedicated to the amazing BMW N55 3.0 inline-6 turbo engine. Waste of time and money. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. EDIT: Why not just go with the n54, do a full engine out service and get it working like new again with some aftermarket turbos? Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? Whoever owns this car is my hero. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. Such a better motor than the N55. Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. Home / N55. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. Stage 2. You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 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