I dont know why a person would think otherwise. We accept him as a prophet because his story is in the scriptures instead of a current podcast. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. Sorry, Bellamy, you said you know Mike. Let me explain what Mike Stroud is really teaching: He is teaching a practice called astral Projection though he never uses that word. I think it is called The Church of the Firstborn. "Abundantly illustrated with frames and sequences, Video Art offers a history of the medium seen through the perspectives of its early practitioners - such as Bruce Nauman and Vito Acconci, who . I found more truth and insight from mikes podcasts than I have from general conferences and sacrament meetings since the early 80s. Its what we all want. There more from the doc that could be discussed. There was a nice girl in one of his classes who was popular, very spiritual and had a very kind heart. I havent listened to any of his podcasts, but it seems to me that personal revelarion is just that: personal. But not everyone like her. It was a well attended meeting and there was a good spirit there. Interestingly, I just found out that Julie Rowe, another podcaster and author, was excommunicated in April. Turning again to Alma: 30:53 But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. Maybe, Mike was a bit naive about this and in hindsight, it probably would have been better to not post the meeting on youtube. Im not sure I have desires with regard to what God may offer. Its just being wise about it. The 3 Eagle Head identification could have several different meanings, The 2 wings (Right and Left) identification, The Lion's timing of when it comes to "save the Saints", The deeper proof behind "Why Herbert Hoover". I have a doubt I do anything out of love, I do things because I care. He even admitted he was obsessed with the idea of The Remnant. I put it this way because too many people think that love is an action word, and for them perhaps it is. But I agree with you general point that if we want to establish Zion we need to shrug off the standard mortal way of looking at things. by h_p August 20th, 2021, 10:24 am, Post Being able to discern good-weird from bad-weird isnt particularly easy or obvious. [I have seen no evidence that Mike Stroud has done this he has bent over backwards to indicate his public support of church leaders, both general and local.] Are you in a position to tell us what part of that definition was applied by whom in Mikes case? They appointed themselves to do it. Why did she not TEST THE SPIRITS like we are taught to do in Doctrine and Covenants? And Bellamy did not answer my question. Epoch Times Documentary - Who is Stealing America? 901 DEWEY STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32304. On February 14th, podcaster Mike Stroud dropped a bombshell. When they are learned, they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not, And THEY SHALL PERISH. But he never told him not to take heed of deception. The items in the verse refer to tools, the line is a snap line to get things straight. Didnt Nephi say something about applying the scriptures? Log In. Teachers of light simply do not use fear as a teaching method. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 11:33 am, Post left the church with his family when they moved to Nebraska; George Thomas Kurian, American Studies Association. It was a problematic combination. Irony of ironies! I can remember my father going to the True Order of Prayer prayer circles held each month in our stake. Taking heed of deception is not being afraid of deception. Evan, I wasnt really disagreeing with what YOU said before, and I disagree even less now. I found it rather amusing when Kimberly suggested that perhaps Mary Ann has a devil because she eerily posted something that Kim did not agree with. So Im going to love. Then, lets take it a step further. Many prophets exist; men and women alike, but only one is THE prophet. Mike was not contradicting the Savior at all here. Welcome to my YouTube channel! I further testify that we truly glorify Him with love, patience, understanding, tolerance, compassion forsaking judgment, fear, guilt, hierarchies, comparison, competition, contention, and control. by | Feb 13, 2021 | Uncategorized | 0 comments. David Whitmer believed Jesus Christ appeared to him in the form of a deer, for pitys sake! Retrieved 7 June 2015. Conjectures and historical comments on others, however, simply left the question hanging. Oh that plan of the evil one, Oh the vainness and the frailties and foolishness of men! That includes defining doctrines and positions of the Church and taking action on heresy from whatever side that may come. 4. Yet I have to sit quiet. Based on the hundreds of private messages the Mike Stroud Podcast exposed page received from people who were seriously harmed by Mike Strouds misguided ideas of seeking to commune with spirits at 3am I can assure that the fruits of this idea were anything but positive. Brother Strouds narrative is indeed lacking in much that might legitimize it. I really enjoyed the first piece you did on Stroud. Michael B Rush 1947 Born c. 1947 Last Known Residence Dallas County, Texas Summary Michael B Rush of Dallas County, Texas was born c. 1947. Which leads into Jackson County Missouri and the New Jerusalem. If people knew how to get their own Personal Revelation they wouldnt need a charismatic teacher like Stroud who claimed doctrinal superiority to tell them how to understand the Book of Mormon. In the talk the author quoted by M. Russell Ballard Beware of False Prophets and False teachers not a single time did Elder Ballard ever say that we should be afraid of deception. Did you do this 4 times a day for 4 years? It had more to do with some very immature teenager girls who convinced everyone that they had a special ability to see evil in a person that no one else could. And thus again the hypocrisy. Michael B. Jordan is coming for the Russians.The trailer for Amazon's "Without Remorse" has dropped and it features Jordan as a top-secret agent bent on revenge after a Russian assassination squad kills his family.The "Black Panther" star plays Sr. Chief John Kelly in the Amazon Prime film based on 00. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. Watch any religion that does not offer this connection fade into oblivion before your very eyes. However, as Michael read on, he discovered a terrible truth. He posted a video yesterday with his take on the infamous Covid email. This is a list of well-known Mormon dissidents or other members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) who have either been excommunicated or have resigned from the church as well as of individuals no longer self-identifying as LDS and those inactive individuals who are on record as not believing and/or not participating in the church. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. This is the bottom slider area. Incidentally, no alternative under the definition of apostacy [a]s used here, i.e. Another problem is that God isnt the only spirit that can pop things into your mind. The views and content on this site reflect only the opinions and teachings of the authors of the respective content contained herein. Many people seek dominion and amen to the priesthood of those men. And thus, the measure of their progress is not based on a relationship with God and what they have to offer his Kingdom. Where are the stories of single mothers working desperately to provide food for their children, even to the point of offering their bodies to men of power who exercise unrighteous dominion? And that is where I differ with Mike. I am thankful for these choice lessons from an excellent teacher, and I mourn with Bro. Not my place. Specifically: an institution who makes such extraordinary claims about personal revelations would then regulate such claims.. Such are the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and as such, will ensure that we remain separated from Him and from each other. Several people put together an open letter (a Google doc) citing new questionable teachings from his conference address onward. Apparently, some tried it and did not have a good experience. Where he is mistaken then we are all in it together, a better thing than a church with many heads and no direction. See more of Michael B. We cannot develop faith if we have fear. Thank you for this update on Mike Stroud. - by Michael B Rush Free Download - See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here Michael B Rush wrote this book as a Michael B. BUT with that a commandment to not impart to others. Rush (Ezra's Eagle) and the FP Covid Statement, https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ersion=CEV. Use the Information in this Book to Prepare for What Comes Next. They could share them with others without the concern of generating feelings of separation and comparison. Of course he should just as the Savior taught. I also find it interesting that they are so condemning of teachers in the online community who they feel have inappropriately and without authority called themselves to teach. [56:02] There is in our day, and in the day to come, the formation of a rescue brigade. Bellamy, It is what it is, and nobody here knows what it is, but only what it seems to be, with the missing parts filled in by each person that cares to imagine the missing parts. 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Hamula", "Kelly laments her 'painful' excommunication from Mormon church", "Mormons Oust First Indian in the Hierarchy", "Roz Chalmers, Merlin Holland, David Charles Manners, David Waterman, Midweek - BBC Radio 4", "Skyjackerthe Richard McCoy Jr. Story - Part 2", "Controversial Mormon writer gets the word: He's out of the church", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_former_or_dissident_Mormons&oldid=1140233272, This page was last edited on 19 February 2023, at 03:06. I hope those in Mikes stake high council did not use any of the content in this doc as a basis for their ruling. I think they all probably went to one too many Lynn Bryson firesides when they were younger. And sacrament meetings since the early 80s though he never uses that.. Which leads into Jackson County Missouri and the frailties and foolishness of men believed. Very spiritual and had a very kind heart where he is teaching a practice astral! 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