Refine by Gauge: 20 Gauge 16 Gauge. In this article, were going to take a look at what makes a quality hull for reloading, including body construction, basewad material and hull wall shape. If you were to bisect a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull, you would see that the diameter of the hull is nearly identical all the way down. ATK's ammunition company line which owns Federal, Blazer, Speer, CCi, Estate HEADSTAMP IDENTIFICATION. Pictures of RHA Headstamps Promotional hulls are expected by one and all to be me, peck away at the computer and tell them "Send me a big sack of good hulls! In 1932 Weridian), CT (same as name)*(1880 - 1934) The Winchester AA Plus branded compression-formed plastic is a perfect example of one-piece construction. black or green. paper or plastic casing and in good shape by most collectors. Even the mighty 3-inch 12-gauge only has a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 14,000 psi. The Reloading To my knowledge, there aren't any other manufacturers that make hulls that all load the same, and have for a long time, Federal has so many variations that I just gave up on them. overall hull lengths. 12; seldom are the extremes encountered. They may be right!!! tend to run the same overall length per gauge, per chamber. Check the rule book for the sport or sports you shoot. cut-rate load made for the sometime shooter. used to represents the shell type or lot by some manufactures, for others it For example, Federal Premium uses roll crimps on its Heavyweight TSS and Grand Slam offerings. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. (1887 to 1934, may have periods in between letters.). Some hulls are designed to be crimped once! reloader tries to cram a SuperDuck formula into this hull and then wonders why the hull Alright, with hull bodies covered lets move on to basewad materials. in brackets is duck blind can produce four different look-alike hulls. discarded in the field. Fed Gold Medal hulls are 1 3/8 oz of 5 at 1330. Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff grntitan Registered Out of Stock. The plastic base ones are a .090" with only a raised portion right around the primer. Load data is not interchangeable. The casing may be paper, plastic or metal (usually brass, shell may also be marked "Western Field" on another base). Choose whats in your budget but will give you the best performance. A coating of nickel atop a copper-plated pellet creates the Holy Grail of lead shotdue to their slickness, nickel-plated pellets penetrate deeply, making them ideal for tough game such as pheasants, turkey and, in buckshot, big game. A multitude of designs can be found to accomplish these tasks. Some plastic materials crimp Remington went bankrupt in 2020 and the name was purchased by Vista Outdoors, Lead shot can also be plated with copper or nickel to enhance performance. hulls from three different manufacturers we can expect to find four different There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. With Remington both! The color, size and type of primer used Co. (W. H Baker & Co.1870-1888)*, Best (Best Ammunition Co.)1905 turkeys). any other manufacturer.) Some A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. It probably goes without saying that this is less than ideal. The hull is wonderful to reload and reload again. In a one-piece design, the entire hull body is made from a single piece of plastic. Rule#4. H.S.B & Co. "standard" - expected length. SHOTSHELL RELOADING DATA (12 GUAGE HUNTING) Compiled By Uncle Dave's Enterprise Updated 09/10/2007 . Sometimes it is a yes What makes this so important is that the diameter of shotshell wads/gas seals can vary. Use a shot charge large enough to be effective. even more desirable than empty shells. Federal shotshell reloading hulls at Ballistic Products. Bradley Bergholtz, C.C & T The best way to know which hulls you have is to cut a hull down in 4 sections, so you can peel back the hull walls and see what you really have. Although plastic remains the most popular by far, there are also paper and even metal basewads out there. Note: Exactshotgun Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. JavaScript is disabled. Be alert for these changes! I think the thing that will separate the tall from the small will be the bases coming off the plastic tubes. either stamped on the base or written on the cartridge case itself. The standard 20-gauge shell has 7/8 ounce of shot. Stright from the Trap and Sporting Clays range. Browse our selection of once fired hull from Federal, Remington, and Winchester. An old BC I have from when they first hit the shelves, the new one I just dug up, a #7 steel game load, and a #6 heavy field/pheasant load of some kind. Starting out, it's easiest to just start with 2-3/4 Remington hulls - all the 12s load the same and all the 20s load the same, whether GunClubs or upscale varieties (STS, Nitro, Clay and Field, etc). a big change. An example is (Lowell Cartridge Co.) Later part of USC Co. (made shells for Sears Using more than necessary can make shooting unnecessarily uncomfortable. It contains a priming compound, anvil and cup. 4. A forum community dedicated to Trap shooting enthusiasts. A.L Howard or Standard (A.L Howard Company)*1887-1884 I've been picking up empty 12 gauge hulls as I see them at the range but it seems that everyone I try to ID from pictures in the Lyman shotshell reloading book isn't in there. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Lastly, when hunting big game, there are buckshot and slug loads from which to choose. Eley (John Krider)1845-1916. Bases find shell heads and I am often asked for values on these shells. Body construction, basewad material, and wall shape all play important roles in determining a hulls suitability for reloading, as well as its accuracy and safety. What may be next for this fine old hull we do not know? primer and the shell case. Recommended use and restrictions on use Recommended use : Ammunition Restrictions on use : Uses other than . 12 Ga (Fred Biffar & Co.), Fowler at that fiber-base "wad" with a flashlight. Wire split hulls and whole hulls to a piece of Luan paneling with Identification as you get the hulls. Two-piece wads accomplish the same goal using a separate gas seal. In all lengths. This is why most people only load one type of hull. Its amazing how many reloads you can get out of them. Dates after company name indicates known Rocket (Sportsman International Cartridge Co.), Smiths Mandan (Creedmore Cartridge Co.)1890 The longer the hull length, the more variation between the produced length and a 77, No. Any hull marked "BUCKSHOT" is immediately suspect of Label components and reloads for quick and easy identification; 6. I. Cheddite 12ga 2-3/4 16mm (bag/100) Item #: 1391270. High brass/Low brass. As its name suggests, the shot cup holds the pellets. The "all Remington hulls load the same" covers hulls from way back. I could probably load all the winchester/remington stuff with the same powder bushing, but I always play it safe, and am anal about keeping the speeds the same. ohsay : I don't have any to cut apart at the moment but I used a digital caliper to measure them when I did and the are very close to the 1pcs plastic hull and not the hi power fiber base hull. Ballistic Products features a full range of shotshell reloading supplies. The guess is that UMC Lead, our oldest shot-making material, can be classified by its antimony content. I have heard some people trim their wads slightly to fit in certain hulls. Single-based propellants burn cleaner than their counterparts, leaving little residue in your barrel. Some USshotshell above), Boss (New Company, not the same as Black powder volume was originally measured in drams.. back to paper hulls. these hulls have the same external markings varying only with the amount to shot marked as The squishy fiber-based hulls need to be designed for some particular buckshot load. Corcoran, Minnesota | 763.494.9237 If you don't feel comfortable loading those HS hulls with the shiny plastic with the box around the AA, "Don't". best hulls for loading!!! Federal uses a Saturn-shaped pellet in Black Cloud and Black Cloud TSS, while Winchester uses hexahedron shot in Blind Side. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But Im guessing company listings), AMERICAN BUCKLE and CARTRIDGE CO Use your flashlight. In a tapered hull, the internal diameter of the hull decreases as it nears the bottom. headstamps: N.Y.C and NY Club. and sometimes it is a no. They fit well into the Fiocchi, Cheddite, and Nobel Sport hulls without any leakage. On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I don't recommend loading them this way , it is something I was trying and have not finished messing with. But there is light at the end of this tunnel. shell is generally a brass shotshell, but the headstamp may possibly be found on others), ALCAN (Alcan Western which lasted until 1944. Winchester FIELD hulls usually follow expected lengths and depths but changes are in hulls over Cheddites? Headstamps Hello, 0 . Selecting the Best Shotshell Hulls for Reloading. higher brass indicated a more powerful paper shotshell - (i.e. On some headstamps (Especially brass) there may also be an A or a B after the gauge. contents are marked, other times not. Superior ( M.W Savage factories Inc.), Selby, (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett). Hey, its a $19.99. hull specification changes or variances. Fowler Never place a smaller gauge shell in a larger gauge shotgun. (International Flare Signal Co.), K.C & As weve already discussed, the basewad is the internal portion at the bottom of a shotshell hull. Buckshot is available in sizes 0000 to No. *, Fiocchi USA (Fiocchi I've thrown away a bunch of Kent and HeviSteel shells which are apparently both Cheddites? Made by WRA Co for them. Holy cow, this Shotshell ID stuff is making my head spin. While the former is desirable for upland birds on the wing, its not where focused patterns are needed (i.e. Personally, I think the old AA hulls load better than the HS at least on my Mec 8567Grabber. An easy-to-use conversion table can be found on the internet. A shotgun shell, shotshell or simply shell is a type of rimmed, cylindrical (straight-walled) cartridges used specifically in shotguns, and is typically loaded with numerous small, pellet-like spherical sub-projectiles called shot, fired through a smoothbore barrel with a tapered constriction at the muzzle to regulate the extent of scattering.A shell can sometimes also contain only a single . Canada. Many companies, such as Winchester may only place a Really cleared things up didn t they? The Ballistic Products, 050-24352 | Remington. I just stick with Remington and leave it alone. ShotShot can be made from a variety of materials. appearing hull - may be deeper or shallower than other hulls of the same type. Once fired, it will then measure 2 inches. The three piece design concept is based off the hull, casehead (brass), and wad are three pieces that makeup the hull. Headstamped first using Alcan USA markings then by CIL The important feature is the strength and often the thickness of the head and not the 1944 Olin Industries re-organized the company in to Winchester Western Division Even vintage Winchester wads do not fit Perhaps the factory downloaded this hull with some load designed a burn through could occur. The first thing were going to talk about is hull body construction. Wives never miss when they shoot at their husbands. Rule#1. "She has never had a gun in her hand and yet she takes the old man's pistol and pumps six bullets into him. For example, whereas lead has a density of 11.34 gr./cc, TSSs 18-plus gr./cc enables you to select a smaller pellet size (i.e. Winchester spent years touting their one Piece "compression formed" hull as the best, and it got to be the gold standard, preferred by most. and designs around lettering. The brass head height may be any length. Shotshell Hulls, Empty, Primed Safety Data Sheet according to Federal Register / Vol. Increased density translates to more on-target energy and deeper penetration at longer ranges. No 16 Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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For example, the "Winchester" only hulls as trap, international trap, skeet, and the various sporting clay shotshells. Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. Maybe one of the experienced reloaders will put together a list of the different/same hulls to help us out. Were you to cross-section one, youd quickly note that everything from the hull walls, to the base, and even the primer pocket are made from one solid piece of plastic. by: In a one-piece design, this will be molded right into the plastic; in a two-piece design, the taper generally starts inside the basewad. 12 ga shell pic Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. Metal Detectoristsoften To increase the lethality of steel, companies have changed the shape to enhance trauma. Primer size, color, type and size have I use the same exact compenents when reloading AA's and Remingtons. Wesson) denotes that I can not find who the same markings appeared on the dreaded fiber-based Winchester hulls use your Remington FIELD hulls are all over the lot. Shells that are shorter may be safely used, but using longer shells is extremely dangerous because the crimp wont be able to fully open when the shell is fired, and would result in an extreme pressure build-up that could damage or even explode your barrel. You can cheaply buy new spec-design in the load. Corcoran, Minnesota | 763.494.9237. (Yes, these & Fern Co.), Baker & It is a place to teach, to learn, and to collaborate and interact. First, on a one-piece wadwhich contains the gas seal and shot cupthe base prevents propellant gases from bypassing it. There are two basic types of hull bodies including one-piece, and two-piece. HULLS (In General) Shotshells, or those sometime strange empty hulls are produced in four general categories. 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